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作者: swimsmooth    时间: 2012-6-16 23:49
标题: 自由泳技术 游泳爱好者类型介绍 过分的“滑行”(超清)
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第四种自由泳类型:过分的“滑行”
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4.   滑行狂人

-有停顿滑行的本能
-想减缓划水频率
-抓水和水感不好
-思考书面的东西过多
-100m速度在1:30到3:00


the biggest thinkers in the sport but they have gone down a cul de sac with their stroke
体育运动里,有些人好像思考了很多,但其实他们的划手技术已经走入了死胡同
Overglider Profile
过分滑行的特征
The Overglider can be male or female but with one common trait - a very conscientious approach towards developing their swimming technique! Their stroke is typically long but contains too much glide and has a distinct dead-spot within its timing.
他们之中有男有女,但有个共同的特征:在想让自己游泳技术进步这点上很用心也很谨慎!他们的划手范围长,但漂浮地过多,并且很明显在划手时机这点上产生了认知上的忙点。
Overgliders In Action:
他们的动作录影(四则录像,大家自己去看)
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Overglider Common Characteristics:
共同特征:
• A long and smooth stroke when viewed from above the water but often with a very slow stroke rate which lacks rhythm and flow. A clear dead-spot is always present, normally at the front of the stroke at full extension.
从水面上看,划手很长,很平滑;但划频也通常很慢,显得没有韵律和流动。当完全前伸的时候,划手的前端会出现一个明显的“哑点”(我个人还是没明白哑点是什么)
• Typically breathes every two strokes to one preferred side (unilateral breathing) with distinctly more rotation to the breathing side.
很典型地,他们都两划一换,并且单侧换气,并且换气侧的滚体幅度明显大于另一侧。
• Lack of rotation to the non-breathing side causes non-breathing arm to sweep round the side of the swimmer rather than over the top.
非换气侧的转体很缺乏,这造成non-breathing arm(非呼吸侧手臂。。不知是指这侧转体时前伸的手臂还是移臂的手臂)划扫过游泳者的体侧,而不是从上方(这句。。大家自己看原文吧。我也不明白)
• Very common to see lead hand extending forwards and the palm pushing against the water "applying the brakes".
经常看见移臂前伸入水时,手掌对着水(就是朝前的意思),这就好比在给自己猛踩刹车
• Straight arm catch and pull pushing down on the water rather than pressing it backwards. This is fundamentally linked to the dead-spot as a better bent elbow catch technique would remove the dead-spot and naturally lift stroke rate.
抓水时手臂很直,且是在朝下推水而不是朝后压水。这就是“哑点”的根本原因,而屈肘抓水的技术可以解决它,并且很轻松地加快划频。
• Overgliders often have a pronounced scissor kick due to a loss of balance whilst gliding.
过分滑行者通常都是剪刀脚,因为在滑行时他们其实是失去了平衡
• Low stroke rate and big dead spots gives a tendency to stall between strokes causing a loss of efficiency. This is worsened in open water where cramped or choppy conditions further stall the Overglider.
低划频和“哑点”会使得每次划手之间有延迟,这浪费了很大的效率。在狭窄的或者波浪多的开放泳域,这种延迟会更加恶化。
• Typical swimming speed is 1:30 to 2:20 per 100m.
泳速一般在1:30到2:20/100m之间

Personality Traits:
个性特点:
• The most conscientious swimmer of all, having read all the books and watched all the DVDs on how to improve their swimming.
他们是最用心的游泳者,几乎阅读了所有相关书籍和DVD,为了改善技术。
• Tends to treat swimming as a serious technical exercise.
试图把游泳当做严格的技术训练。

Areas To Work On:
可以改进的地方:
• Development of a better catch and pull through technique is essential for the Overglider. Not only will this increase propulsion, it will act to remove the dead-spot.
对他们来说,抓水和 pull through technique(可能是指某种推水技巧。。)技术的改进很关键,这不仅可以增加推力,也可以消除“哑点”
• Improved rhythm, timing and flow is a must for the Overglider. They should be looking to lift their stroke rate by 3 to 8 strokes per minute.
节奏,时机和流动必须改善。他们应尝试提高划频,每分钟增加3~8下。
• Once stroke rate has been lifted slightly this gives the opportunity to breathe bilaterally and so naturally develop more symmetry in the stroke.
一旦小幅地增加了划频,他们就有机会双边换气,并很自然地改善两遍划手的对称问题。


作者: swimsmooth    时间: 2012-6-16 23:51
Glide Is A Dirty Word
滑行不是件好事情
Swim Smooth believe that glide is a dirty word in swimming because it encourages swimmers to stop, pause and do nothing at the front of their stroke. This is very bad for your rhythm and timing and greatly harms your catch.
Swim Smooth认为在游泳中讲滑行是不好的,因为这个词会鼓励游泳者迅速中断,停止一会,并在划水周期的初始部分不做任何事情。这对节奏和时机非常不好,并影响你的抓水。
Introducing glide to make your stroke as long as is humanly possible has led many swimmers down a stroke technique cul-de-sac. If you have glide in your stroke it will feel strange at first when you remove it. Don't let this put you off: you'll soon notice improved swimming efficiency as the increased stroke rate starts to feel good.
“滑行”的引入使得你的划臂人为地尽可能长,这造成很多游泳者的划臂进入了死胡同。如果你习惯了滑行,那么当你刚开始纠正这个动作时会感到很别扭。不要因为这点而放弃,你会很快察觉到当划频增加后你的效率也在增加。


Potential
潜力
An Overglider's determination to be good at swimming is a definite strength. Once they have intellectually bought-in to the removal of glide from their stroke they can make rapid progress.
过分“滑行”者想游好自由泳需要一定的力量。一旦他们在去除滑行这点上完全认可,他们的进步会很快
A combination of increased stroke rate and improved catch technique can rapidly improve their swimming efficiency and move them progressively towards the Smooth type.
增快划频和改善抓水组合起来,可以很快提高游泳效率,并使得他们很快进入Smooth类型

Stroke Correction Guides
划臂纠正指南
If you are an Overglider, our full guide to improving your swimming includes detailed analysis, explanations and advice on developing your stroke. We include all the specific drills, methods and visualisations you need and four full training sessions to follow, all specific to your unique needs.
如果你属于这一类型。。。(这段不翻译了,就是在推销产品,怂恿你花钱,不过人家专为这个类型的纠正写了20页的东西,说明了国外做事情的认真,澳大利亚确实是个游泳强国)
The 20 page guide is supplied as a digital download straight to your computer in PDF format - order now and in minutes you'll be getting the insight you need to take your swimming to the next level.

Other Product Help
One of the keys to removing the deadspot from an Overglider's stroke is to improve their catch and feel for the water. Our new Catch Masterclass DVD explains in detail how to do this and highlights the important distinctions between an Overgliding stroke and true-Smooth stroke with amazing video quality:
Slightly from left of field, a waterproof MP3 player such as a Finis SwiMP3 can be very useful for an Overglider as it helps them switch off from over-thinking and simply focus on stroke rhythm.
带着MP3也能帮助这类型的人,因为音乐会使他们放松,不再过多地思考,而简简单单地专注于划臂节奏

Do You Know An Overglider?
你认识这类型的人么?
Overgliders are competent swimmers who are often stuck on a bit of a plateau. Take a look under the water and watch for a dead spot at the front of their stroke, often accompanied by a dropped wrist, showing the palm forwards momentarily. They might also be quiet and thoughtful in their approach to swimming.
这类型的人都是很好的游泳者,迷恋于一种平稳的状态。从水下观察他们,并且盯着划臂周期初始部分的“哑点”看,会发现他们通常伴随着垂下的手腕,手掌会暂时地朝前(这句没理解。。可能翻错)。他们也许在游的时候很安静,脑中还在想心思。
Please let them know about this site! It's often much easier to recognise traits in others than ourselves so give them a quick prompt in this direction and let us get to work on removing their dead spots and improving their rhythm and timing.
请告诉他们这个网页,从别人身上发现特征比如观察自身更容易。所以给他们在这方面一个提示,让我们能够帮助他们纠正哑点、改善节奏和时机


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http://www.feelforthewater.com/2012/04/overglider-kickstart.html
后续的一篇文章,讲述了为什么这类型不是我们这个层次的人该学的
顺便批评了2次腿

该贴回复里有人很有意思,说自己水平很差,只能20分钟游1km。。。。
这个水准说自己是低手。。。恩。。。

http://www.feelforthewater.com/2011/04/curing-overglider.html
之前的一篇,对该类型有更详细的描述

大家觉得over glide这个问题很重要的话,我抽空把以上两篇也翻了,这样就形成了个Overglider的专题系列~~~
作者: lauren    时间: 2012-6-17 00:01
楼主辛苦了,很好的资料。
因为要追求像幽灵一样的游得波澜不惊的感觉,
导致了过度滑行,
弊端可能正是文章说的dead-spot 哑点,
出现了因为手完全甚至而无法接下一个正确动作的“死角”
对又想追求速度、又想追求飘逸的业余的我们是一个很好的提醒。

作者: rose    时间: 2012-6-17 00:02
non-breathing arm 就是非呼吸侧手臂,是这侧手臂完成划水后,出水前移。
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因为非呼吸侧的转体不够,导致手臂从侧面平行前移(从旁边掠过水面),而无法像有充分转体的呼吸侧一样从身体上方前移。
作者: leafly    时间: 2012-6-17 00:03
估计我也是过度滑行。因为游的时候有停顿。
快冲起来就好了,慢游明显。
作者: charles    时间: 2012-6-17 00:04
其实全浸就是最典型的过度滑行的例子,但是这种游法容易得到外行的崇拜,因为过度滑行,每划之间速度降低很多,下一划看起来就加速很明显,就成了所谓的划水效果好,全浸所谓的效率就是个笑话。
作者: 自由滑行    时间: 2012-6-17 00:04
我最近自己对“哑点”的认识是,划水的速度,或者说节奏不对
应该是从慢速到快速,而overglider的划水是前伸后,突然小臂加速形成高肘,然后很快地做完划水推水的动作,看上去就是之前的停顿太明显,好像很仓促地要做完划水动作似的。
这个停顿有的人也可能是在做完高肘后,划水推水前。
作者: tina    时间: 2012-6-17 16:51
很好。。。
作者: Roc    时间: 2012-6-17 22:46
良好的节奏会形成流畅而优雅的泳姿,让人看上去又一点也不费力气
作者: 美丽的心情    时间: 2012-6-18 14:55
转髋、打腿、划水、前刺协调一致,很重要,过分滑行全浸多些
作者: 天涯归舟    时间: 2012-6-18 16:45
如果长距离爬泳,频率快了,呼吸会急促,无法持久。
作者: fj528    时间: 2012-6-18 20:48
天涯归舟 发表于 2012-6-18 16:45
如果长距离爬泳,频率快了,呼吸会急促,无法持久。

长距离应该怎么游比较合适?
作者: 天涯归舟    时间: 2012-6-19 15:05
fj528 发表于 2012-6-18 20:48
长距离应该怎么游比较合适?

要有适当滑行

作者: xjt227    时间: 2012-8-21 13:44
很好的资料,楼主辛苦了
作者: kuiying    时间: 2012-9-11 08:17
技术贴,前排观看
作者: 水上芭蕾    时间: 2012-9-11 08:22
移臂的时候,另一侧就开始抓水
入水 的时候,另一侧完成抱水。
前伸的时候,另一侧推水。

我理解的就是这样
作者: 100002561407    时间: 2012-9-11 09:17
非常好的帖子,你整理的很好,辛苦了。

作者: 抬抬脚    时间: 2012-11-13 22:51
世界一流的减阻技术!如果不考虑较少阻力,那么付出再多的动力也有很大一部分是在做无用功。
作者: 循循鱼    时间: 2013-2-26 23:13
这个真是好东西,很喜欢,支持支持
作者: 一叶孤舟pkpk    时间: 2014-3-2 12:49
学习了,多角度了解,在游泳馆见识过这种游法。谢谢楼主。
作者: 御风行    时间: 2014-3-14 17:57
超越竹内,走向世界
作者: --自由行走的_HU    时间: 2014-3-15 21:32
啊啊啊啊熬啊啊
作者: 淡蓝色火焰    时间: 2014-3-23 18:27
一叶孤舟pkpk 发表于 2014-3-2 12:49
学习了,多角度了解,在游泳馆见识过这种游法。谢谢楼主。

过度滑行,看看是啥样

作者: 心生莲花    时间: 2014-11-24 19:00
这个贴子是我学习最有效的,感谢了.终于明白是怎么回事了.
作者: 风的一滴眼泪    时间: 2014-11-25 08:01

作者: 晓颖    时间: 2015-3-10 23:46
对过分用脑思考技术的人,可能容易产生这类问题。用身体去体会,才能找到滑行的节奏,又要长距离(500米以上),又要有速度(50米1分钟以内),就不能游得太吃力,慢慢就找到感觉了。我学了一年,目前也是长滑,50米1分钟以内是可以的。掌握好的话,一次1000米一般要25分钟。请专家指导一下,这样的成绩是什么水平?属于健身水平么?谢谢!
作者: 狼飞-2003    时间: 2015-4-29 09:58
学习自由泳20多天吧,25米池自测50米  47秒 没有测试过1000米,朋友50米池子测试1000米在19分左右吧,仅供参考
作者: 军旅孤鸿    时间: 2015-5-18 09:10
swimsmooth 发表于 2012-6-16 23:51
Glide Is A Dirty Word
滑行不是件好事情
Swim Smooth believe that glide is a dirty word in swimming  ...

这个帖子应该是最有用的了,大家可以对号入座。大赞!!!

作者: -律-    时间: 2015-7-21 14:39
没看完,我先去泳池游泳了,怕看太多了,记不住,先把打退和,滑臂改善了,再说,慢慢来,一步一步成长
作者: 谁也挡不住    时间: 2015-10-25 11:42
我好像就是这个情况,最近看划臂的视频看多了,划水次数下来了效率也没上去,看了非常有启发!感谢LZ分享!
作者: 曙光初照优泳者    时间: 2016-2-2 09:36
rose 发表于 2012-6-17 00:02
non-breathing arm 就是非呼吸侧手臂,是这侧手臂完成划水后,出水前移。

有有关的视频吗?
作者: 曙光初照优泳者    时间: 2016-2-2 09:38
美丽的心情 发表于 2012-6-18 14:55
转髋、打腿、划水、前刺协调一致,很重要,过分滑行全浸多些

有视频吗?谢谢!
作者: xuehuapiao    时间: 2016-8-10 10:58
学习了,真的很好
作者: xuehuapiao    时间: 2016-8-23 16:23
好文,有启发,有帮助。




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